Saturday, September 29, 2012

Stud-8 thoughts

There's something fascinating about a new poker game. I'm certainly finding stud-8 fascinating as I see many spots (that might be common in the game) for the first time. So far I'm ahead but only just, and I've only been playing micro limits (10c/20c and 25c/50c). Like most other games, I'm playing fewer hands than my opponents: a little over a quarter, which still seems on the high side but I imagine that would come down in tighter games. I picked up Super System 2 from the library and have been reading and trying to take in the stud-8 chapter. Many of the concepts are far from obvious, to me at least.

I think I've got a handle on what low hands you can play. You really want to have the best low draw, and as much chance as possible of also making a high. Eight draws (and even some seven draws) are problematic unless you have an ace, a straight draw or a flush draw. Things like 862 without a three-flush can normally hit the muck unless you're the only player going low. If you brick a good low draw on fourth street, you can normally call one bet to see fifth; it helps if your brick is a low card that has given you a pair because your opponents won't know you've made a pair. High hands - even pairs of aces - still cause me a bit of trouble however. Here are a few hands from my short stud-8 "career":

Hand 1
There were chips flying everywhere here. Forty-seven big bets! Amazingly I could have ended up with nothing if Sammy had hit his seven-out open-ender on the river. I could also have ended up with just a quarter (which must be a rare occurrence in this game) or possibly the whole thing.

PokerStars Hand #86590762100:  7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($0.10/$0.20 USD) - 2012/09/23 4:32:09 ET
Table 'Ortrud II' 8-max
Seat 1: ozzi65 ($4.87 in chips)
Seat 2: alexn07 ($5.17 in chips)
Seat 3: plutoman20 ($5.46 in chips)
Seat 4: hein10 ($2.14 in chips)
Seat 5: sammy2929932 ($9.53 in chips)
Seat 6: wainui ($3.42 in chips)
Seat 7: kypreos111 ($3.15 in chips)
Seat 8: wetwer ($3.96 in chips)
ozzi65: posts the ante $0.02
alexn07: posts the ante $0.02
plutoman20: posts the ante $0.02
hein10: posts the ante $0.02
sammy2929932: posts the ante $0.02
wainui: posts the ante $0.02
kypreos111: posts the ante $0.02
wetwer: posts the ante $0.02
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ozzi65 [8s]
Dealt to alexn07 [3h]
Dealt to plutoman20 [6c 2c 3c]
Dealt to hein10 [4h]
Dealt to sammy2929932 [Jh]
Dealt to wainui [8h]
Dealt to kypreos111 [7s]
Dealt to wetwer [Qh]
plutoman20: brings in for $0.05
hein10: calls $0.05
sammy2929932: raises $0.05 to $0.10
wainui: folds
kypreos111: raises $0.10 to $0.20
wetwer: folds
ozzi65: folds
alexn07: calls $0.20
plutoman20: raises $0.10 to $0.30
hein10: calls $0.25
sammy2929932: calls $0.20
kypreos111: calls $0.10
alexn07: calls $0.10
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to alexn07 [3h] [5h]
Dealt to plutoman20 [6c 2c 3c] [4c]
Dealt to hein10 [4h] [2h]
Dealt to sammy2929932 [Jh] [Qc]
Dealt to kypreos111 [7s] [6h]
sammy2929932: bets $0.10
kypreos111: calls $0.10
alexn07: calls $0.10
plutoman20: raises $0.10 to $0.20
hein10: calls $0.20
sammy2929932: calls $0.10
kypreos111: calls $0.10
alexn07: calls $0.10
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to alexn07 [3h 5h] [Jc]
Dealt to plutoman20 [6c 2c 3c 4c] [5s]
Dealt to hein10 [4h 2h] [As]
Dealt to sammy2929932 [Jh Qc] [7c]
Dealt to kypreos111 [7s 6h] [4d]
hein10: checks
sammy2929932: bets $0.20
kypreos111: calls $0.20
alexn07: calls $0.20
plutoman20: raises $0.20 to $0.40
hein10: raises $0.20 to $0.60
sammy2929932: calls $0.40
kypreos111: folds
alexn07: calls $0.40
plutoman20: raises $0.20 to $0.80
Betting is capped
hein10: calls $0.20
sammy2929932: calls $0.20
alexn07: calls $0.20
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to alexn07 [3h 5h Jc] [Tc]
Dealt to plutoman20 [6c 2c 3c 4c 5s] [Ts]
Dealt to hein10 [4h 2h As] [Td]
Dealt to sammy2929932 [Jh Qc 7c] [Th]
hein10: bets $0.20
sammy2929932: calls $0.20
alexn07: calls $0.20
plutoman20: raises $0.20 to $0.40
hein10: raises $0.20 to $0.60
sammy2929932: calls $0.40
alexn07: calls $0.40
plutoman20: raises $0.20 to $0.80
Betting is capped
hein10: calls $0.20
sammy2929932: calls $0.20
alexn07: calls $0.20
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to plutoman20 [6c 2c 3c 4c 5s Ts] [8d]
hein10: bets $0.02 and is all-in
sammy2929932: calls $0.02
alexn07: folds
plutoman20: raises $0.18 to $0.20
sammy2929932: calls $0.18
*** SHOW DOWN ***
plutoman20: shows [6c 2c 3c 4c 5s Ts 8d] (HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 6,5,4,3,2)
sammy2929932: mucks hand
plutoman20 collected $0.18 from side pot
plutoman20 collected $0.18 from side pot
hein10: shows [6d 5c 4h 2h As Td Kc] (HI: high card Ace; LO: 6,5,4,2,A)
plutoman20 collected $4.61 from main pot
hein10 collected $4.61 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.68 Main pot $9.22. Side pot $0.36. | Rake $0.10
Seat 1: ozzi65 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 2: alexn07 folded on the River
Seat 3: plutoman20 showed [6c 2c 3c 4c 5s Ts 8d] and won ($4.97) with HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 6,5,4,3,2
Seat 4: hein10 showed [6d 5c 4h 2h As Td Kc] and won ($4.61) with HI: high card Ace; LO: 6,5,4,2,A
Seat 5: sammy2929932 mucked [Jd Kd Jh Qc 7c Th 7d]
Seat 6: wainui folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: kypreos111 folded on the 5th Street
Seat 8: wetwer folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)

Hand 2
We both realise eventually that while we've got monsters we're only getting half the pot each so we should stop feeding the rake. If I was him I would have folded the (JT)T on third.

PokerStars Hand #86742306415:  7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($0.10/$0.20 USD) - 2012/09/26 5:38:46 ET
Table 'Ortutay II' 8-max
Seat 1: Miki Dedi ($3.77 in chips)
Seat 2: Agrael ($3.71 in chips)
Seat 3: Strongpoint ($2.93 in chips)
Seat 4: BZBD ($4 in chips)
Seat 5: KARATEL52 ($7.28 in chips)
Seat 6: plutoman20 ($3.20 in chips)
Seat 8: e.just60 ($4.62 in chips)
Miki Dedi: posts the ante $0.02
Agrael: posts the ante $0.02
Strongpoint: posts the ante $0.02
BZBD: posts the ante $0.02
KARATEL52: posts the ante $0.02
plutoman20: posts the ante $0.02
e.just60: posts the ante $0.02
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to Miki Dedi [Tc]
Dealt to Agrael [3s]
Dealt to Strongpoint [Td]
Dealt to BZBD [4d]
Dealt to KARATEL52 [6s]
Dealt to plutoman20 [4c 6h 5s]
Dealt to e.just60 [Kd]
Agrael: brings in for $0.05
Strongpoint: folds
BZBD: calls $0.05
KARATEL52: folds
plutoman20: raises $0.05 to $0.10
e.just60: folds
Miki Dedi: calls $0.10
Agrael: calls $0.05
BZBD: calls $0.05
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to Miki Dedi [Tc] [Jh]
Dealt to Agrael [3s] [Kc]
Dealt to BZBD [4d] [9h]
Dealt to plutoman20 [4c 6h 5s] [7h]
Agrael: checks
BZBD: checks
plutoman20: bets $0.10
Miki Dedi: calls $0.10
Agrael: folds
BZBD: folds
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to Miki Dedi [Tc Jh] [Th]
Dealt to plutoman20 [4c 6h 5s 7h] [8s]
Miki Dedi: bets $0.20
plutoman20: raises $0.20 to $0.40
Miki Dedi: raises $0.20 to $0.60
plutoman20: raises $0.20 to $0.80
Betting is capped
Miki Dedi: calls $0.20
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to Miki Dedi [Tc Jh Th] [3c]
Dealt to plutoman20 [4c 6h 5s 7h 8s] [6c]
Miki Dedi: bets $0.20
plutoman20: raises $0.20 to $0.40
Miki Dedi: raises $0.20 to $0.60
plutoman20: calls $0.20
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to plutoman20 [4c 6h 5s 7h 8s 6c] [3d]
Miki Dedi: bets $0.20
plutoman20: calls $0.20
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Miki Dedi: shows [Jd Ts Tc Jh Th 3c 5c] (HI: a full house, Tens full of Jacks)
plutoman20: shows [4c 6h 5s 7h 8s 6c 3d] (HI: a straight, Four to Eight; LO: 7,6,5,4,3)
Miki Dedi collected $1.92 from pot
plutoman20 collected $1.92 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3.94 | Rake $0.10
Seat 1: Miki Dedi showed [Jd Ts Tc Jh Th 3c 5c] and won ($1.92) with HI: a full house, Tens full of Jacks
Seat 2: Agrael folded on the 4th Street
Seat 3: Strongpoint folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 4: BZBD folded on the 4th Street
Seat 5: KARATEL52 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 6: plutoman20 showed [4c 6h 5s 7h 8s 6c 3d] and won ($1.92) with HI: a straight, Four to Eight; LO: 7,6,5,4,3
Seat 8: e.just60 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)

Hand 3
The excitement is too much in this hand. Urban hits the only remaining three to make a boat without using either of his hole cards (that takes some doing), depriving me of a scoop.

PokerStars Hand #86743226658:  7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($0.10/$0.20 USD) - 2012/09/26 6:14:57 ET
Table 'Ortutay II' 8-max
Seat 1: urban1984 ($3.48 in chips)
Seat 2: andreti878 ($3.93 in chips)
Seat 3: Strongpoint ($3.38 in chips)
Seat 4: BZBD ($4.60 in chips)
Seat 5: shaan777 ($2.05 in chips)
Seat 6: plutoman20 ($2.69 in chips)
Seat 7: ivan41 ($11.70 in chips)
Seat 8: e.just60 ($2.96 in chips)
urban1984: posts the ante $0.02
andreti878: posts the ante $0.02
Strongpoint: posts the ante $0.02
BZBD: posts the ante $0.02
shaan777: posts the ante $0.02
plutoman20: posts the ante $0.02
ivan41: posts the ante $0.02
e.just60: posts the ante $0.02
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to urban1984 [7h]
Dealt to andreti878 [Qc]
Dealt to Strongpoint [Kh]
Dealt to BZBD [Ks]
Dealt to shaan777 [9d]
Dealt to plutoman20 [3s 2s Ac]
Dealt to ivan41 [8s]
Dealt to e.just60 [Th]
urban1984: brings in for $0.05
andreti878: calls $0.05
Strongpoint: folds
BZBD: folds
shaan777: calls $0.05
plutoman20: raises $0.05 to $0.10
ivan41: calls $0.10
e.just60: folds
urban1984: calls $0.05
andreti878: calls $0.05
shaan777: calls $0.05
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to urban1984 [7h] [7c]
Dealt to andreti878 [Qc] [9c]
Dealt to shaan777 [9d] [5s]
Dealt to plutoman20 [3s 2s Ac] [5h]
Dealt to ivan41 [8s] [7s]
urban1984: checks
andreti878: checks
shaan777: checks
plutoman20: bets $0.10
ivan41: calls $0.10
urban1984: calls $0.10
andreti878: calls $0.10
shaan777: calls $0.10
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to urban1984 [7h 7c] [3d]
Dealt to andreti878 [Qc 9c] [9h]
Dealt to shaan777 [9d 5s] [6h]
Dealt to plutoman20 [3s 2s Ac 5h] [4h]
Dealt to ivan41 [8s 7s] [Qs]
andreti878: checks
shaan777: checks
plutoman20: bets $0.20
ivan41: calls $0.20
urban1984: calls $0.20
andreti878: calls $0.20
shaan777: calls $0.20
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to urban1984 [7h 7c 3d] [3h]
Dealt to andreti878 [Qc 9c 9h] [Kc]
Dealt to shaan777 [9d 5s 6h] [2c]
Dealt to plutoman20 [3s 2s Ac 5h 4h] [Jh]
Dealt to ivan41 [8s 7s Qs] [As]
urban1984: bets $0.20
andreti878: calls $0.20
shaan777: calls $0.20
plutoman20: raises $0.20 to $0.40
ivan41: raises $0.20 to $0.60
urban1984: calls $0.40
andreti878: calls $0.40
shaan777: calls $0.40
urban1984 said, "exciting"
plutoman20: raises $0.20 to $0.80
Betting is capped
ivan41: calls $0.20
urban1984: calls $0.20
andreti878 said, "indeed"
andreti878: calls $0.20
shaan777: calls $0.20
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to plutoman20 [3s 2s Ac 5h 4h Jh] [5d]
urban1984: bets $0.20
andreti878: folds
shaan777: folds
plutoman20: raises $0.20 to $0.40
ivan41: calls $0.40
urban1984: raises $0.20 to $0.60
plutoman20: raises $0.20 to $0.80
Betting is capped
urban1984 said, "very sick ;)"
ivan41: folds
urban1984: calls $0.20
*** SHOW DOWN ***
plutoman20: shows [3s 2s Ac 5h 4h Jh 5d] (HI: a straight, Ace to Five; LO: 5,4,3,2,A)
urban1984: shows [8d 6c 7h 7c 3d 3h 3c] (HI: a full house, Threes full of Sevens)
urban1984 collected $4.03 from pot
plutoman20 collected $4.03 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.16 | Rake $0.10
Seat 1: urban1984 showed [8d 6c 7h 7c 3d 3h 3c] and won ($4.03) with HI: a full house, Threes full of Sevens
Seat 2: andreti878 folded on the River
Seat 3: Strongpoint folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 4: BZBD folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 5: shaan777 folded on the River
Seat 6: plutoman20 showed [3s 2s Ac 5h 4h Jh 5d] and won ($4.03) with HI: a straight, Ace to Five; LO: 5,4,3,2,A
Seat 7: ivan41 folded on the River
Seat 8: e.just60 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)

Hand 4
I made a dreadfully awful fold on third here. I guess one of the difficulties of this hand is that you have to reraise it, basically telling everyone I either have wired aces or rolled-up eights. I wonder what Shaan had. I won't be folding this again, but I'll still be dumping stuff like Urban's (QT)9, thank you very much.

PokerStars Hand #86743580547:  7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($0.10/$0.20 USD) - 2012/09/26 6:27:42 ET
Table 'Ortutay II' 8-max
Seat 1: urban1984 ($5 in chips)
Seat 2: andreti878 ($4.87 in chips)
Seat 3: Strongpoint ($2.78 in chips)
Seat 4: BZBD ($5.68 in chips)
Seat 5: shaan777 ($3.57 in chips)
Seat 6: plutoman20 ($4.70 in chips)
Seat 7: ivan41 ($10.36 in chips)
urban1984: posts the ante $0.02
andreti878: posts the ante $0.02
Strongpoint: posts the ante $0.02
BZBD: posts the ante $0.02
shaan777: posts the ante $0.02
plutoman20: posts the ante $0.02
ivan41: posts the ante $0.02
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to urban1984 [9h]
Dealt to andreti878 [3s]
Dealt to Strongpoint [Th]
Dealt to BZBD [7d]
Dealt to shaan777 [6h]
Dealt to plutoman20 [Ad Ah 8c]
Dealt to ivan41 [Kh]
andreti878: brings in for $0.05
Strongpoint: folds
BZBD: raises $0.05 to $0.10
shaan777: raises $0.10 to $0.20
plutoman20: folds
ivan41: folds
urban1984: calls $0.20
andreti878: calls $0.15
BZBD: calls $0.10
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to urban1984 [9h] [Td]
Dealt to andreti878 [3s] [Kc]
Dealt to BZBD [7d] [As]
Dealt to shaan777 [6h] [3c]
BZBD: bets $0.10
shaan777: calls $0.10
urban1984: calls $0.10
andreti878: calls $0.10
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to urban1984 [9h Td] [Jd]
Dealt to andreti878 [3s Kc] [Qs]
Dealt to BZBD [7d As] [Kd]
Dealt to shaan777 [6h 3c] [Qh]
BZBD: bets $0.20
shaan777: calls $0.20
urban1984: raises $0.20 to $0.40
andreti878: folds
BZBD: raises $0.20 to $0.60
shaan777: folds
urban1984: calls $0.20
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to urban1984 [9h Td Jd] [7c]
Dealt to BZBD [7d As Kd] [6s]
BZBD: bets $0.20
urban1984: calls $0.20
*** RIVER ***
BZBD: bets $0.20
urban1984: calls $0.20
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BZBD: shows [8h 3h 7d As Kd 6s 9d] (HI: high card Ace; LO: 8,7,6,3,A)
urban1984: shows [Qd Ts 9h Td Jd 7c Js] (HI: two pair, Jacks and Tens)
urban1984 collected $1.72 from pot
BZBD collected $1.72 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3.54 | Rake $0.10
Seat 1: urban1984 showed [Qd Ts 9h Td Jd 7c Js] and won ($1.72) with HI: two pair, Jacks and Tens
Seat 2: andreti878 folded on the 5th Street
Seat 3: Strongpoint folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 4: BZBD showed [8h 3h 7d As Kd 6s 9d] and won ($1.72) with HI: high card Ace; LO: 8,7,6,3,A
Seat 5: shaan777 folded on the 5th Street
Seat 6: plutoman20 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ivan41 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)

Hand 5
This was just my eighth hand at the table and I couldn't figure out what Identite had. With no hearts dead, a low three-flush (possibly with a straight draw as well) should have been top of the list. Somehow I had rolled-up fives in my head. He turned out to be a bit of a monkey and he could have had a lot of hands other than the flush he showed up with. I don't know whether my river bet was that bad. Presumably my play on earlier streets is OK; maybe there's a case for folding sixth.

PokerStars Hand #86880662857:  7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2012/09/28 22:58:49 ET
Table 'Ulla V' 8-max
Seat 1: grumpi ($1.49 in chips)
Seat 2: may catch ($4.15 in chips)
Seat 3: Hennin ($17.78 in chips)
Seat 5: IdentitetIsk ($22.46 in chips)
Seat 7: plutoman20 ($9.55 in chips)
Seat 8: AkenAton1352 ($8.02 in chips)
grumpi: posts the ante $0.05
may catch: posts the ante $0.05
Hennin: posts the ante $0.05
IdentitetIsk: posts the ante $0.05
plutoman20: posts the ante $0.05
AkenAton1352: posts the ante $0.05
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to grumpi [4c]
Dealt to may catch [4d]
Dealt to Hennin [9c]
Dealt to IdentitetIsk [5h]
Dealt to plutoman20 [Jc As Ad]
Dealt to AkenAton1352 [9d]
grumpi: brings in for $0.10
may catch: folds
Hennin: folds
IdentitetIsk: raises $0.15 to $0.25
plutoman20: raises $0.25 to $0.50
AkenAton1352: folds
grumpi: folds
IdentitetIsk: raises $0.25 to $0.75
plutoman20: calls $0.25
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to IdentitetIsk [5h] [7h]
Dealt to plutoman20 [Jc As Ad] [4s]
plutoman20: checks
IdentitetIsk: bets $0.25
plutoman20: calls $0.25
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to IdentitetIsk [5h 7h] [Qc]
Dealt to plutoman20 [Jc As Ad 4s] [3h]
plutoman20: checks
IdentitetIsk: bets $0.50
plutoman20: calls $0.50
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to IdentitetIsk [5h 7h Qc] [9h]
Dealt to plutoman20 [Jc As Ad 4s 3h] [Qh]
plutoman20: checks
IdentitetIsk: bets $0.50
plutoman20: calls $0.50
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to plutoman20 [Jc As Ad 4s 3h Qh] [Ac]
plutoman20: bets $0.50
IdentitetIsk: raises $0.50 to $1
plutoman20: calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
IdentitetIsk: shows [8h 4h 5h 7h Qc 9h Tc] (HI: a flush, Nine high)
plutoman20: mucks hand
IdentitetIsk collected $6.24 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.40 | Rake $0.16
Seat 1: grumpi folded on the 3rd Street
Seat 2: may catch folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Hennin folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 5: IdentitetIsk showed [8h 4h 5h 7h Qc 9h Tc] and won ($6.24) with HI: a flush, Nine high
Seat 7: plutoman20 mucked [Jc As Ad 4s 3h Qh Ac]
Seat 8: AkenAton1352 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)

Hand 6
This might be my first rolled-up hand. I have no idea what Christie P was playing at.

PokerStars Hand #86881255110:  7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2012/09/28 23:27:45 ET
Table 'Ulla V' 8-max
Seat 1: grumpi ($12.94 in chips)
Seat 2: may catch ($14.24 in chips)
Seat 3: Hennin ($14.32 in chips)
Seat 4: bmb1984 ($5.59 in chips)
Seat 5: IdentitetIsk ($26.08 in chips)
Seat 6: christie p ($7.82 in chips)
Seat 7: plutoman20 ($4.96 in chips)
Seat 8: AkenAton1352 ($8.64 in chips)
grumpi: posts the ante $0.05
may catch: posts the ante $0.05
Hennin: posts the ante $0.05
bmb1984: posts the ante $0.05
IdentitetIsk: posts the ante $0.05
christie p: posts the ante $0.05
plutoman20: posts the ante $0.05
AkenAton1352: posts the ante $0.05
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to grumpi [4s]
Dealt to may catch [9s]
Dealt to Hennin [3c]
Dealt to bmb1984 [5d]
Dealt to IdentitetIsk [8h]
Dealt to christie p [7s]
Dealt to plutoman20 [6c 6s 6h]
Dealt to AkenAton1352 [Js]
Hennin: brings in for $0.10
bmb1984: folds
IdentitetIsk: raises $0.15 to $0.25
christie p: calls $0.25
plutoman20: raises $0.25 to $0.50
AkenAton1352: folds
grumpi: folds
may catch: folds
Hennin: folds
IdentitetIsk: raises $0.25 to $0.75
christie p: calls $0.50
plutoman20: calls $0.25
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to IdentitetIsk [8h] [2s]
Dealt to christie p [7s] [9h]
Dealt to plutoman20 [6c 6s 6h] [8s]
christie p: checks
plutoman20: checks
IdentitetIsk: bets $0.25
christie p: calls $0.25
plutoman20: raises $0.25 to $0.50
IdentitetIsk: raises $0.25 to $0.75
christie p: calls $0.50
plutoman20: raises $0.25 to $1
Betting is capped
IdentitetIsk: calls $0.25
christie p: calls $0.25
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to IdentitetIsk [8h 2s] [2d]
Dealt to christie p [7s 9h] [Jc]
Dealt to plutoman20 [6c 6s 6h 8s] [2h]
IdentitetIsk: bets $0.50
christie p: calls $0.50
plutoman20: raises $0.50 to $1
IdentitetIsk: calls $0.50
christie p: calls $0.50
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to IdentitetIsk [8h 2s 2d] [5h]
Dealt to christie p [7s 9h Jc] [Ac]
Dealt to plutoman20 [6c 6s 6h 8s 2h] [2c]
plutoman20: bets $0.50
IdentitetIsk: raises $0.50 to $1
christie p: calls $1
plutoman20: raises $0.50 to $1.50
IdentitetIsk: raises $0.50 to $2
Betting is capped
christie p: calls $1
plutoman20: calls $0.50
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to plutoman20 [6c 6s 6h 8s 2h 2c] [9c]
plutoman20: bets $0.16 and is all-in
IdentitetIsk: raises $0.34 to $0.50
christie p: calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
IdentitetIsk: shows [As 3s 8h 2s 2d 5h 4h] (HI: a straight, Ace to Five; LO: 5,4,3,2,A)
christie p: mucks hand
IdentitetIsk collected $0.34 from side pot
IdentitetIsk collected $0.34 from side pot
plutoman20: shows [6c 6s 6h 8s 2h 2c 9c] (HI: a full house, Sixes full of Deuces)
plutoman20 collected $7.54 from main pot
IdentitetIsk collected $7.53 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15.91 Main pot $15.07. Side pot $0.68. | Rake $0.16
Seat 1: grumpi folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 2: may catch folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Hennin folded on the 3rd Street
Seat 4: bmb1984 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 5: IdentitetIsk showed [As 3s 8h 2s 2d 5h 4h] and won ($8.21) with HI: a straight, Ace to Five; LO: 5,4,3,2,A
Seat 6: christie p mucked [7h Kc 7s 9h Jc Ac Qd]
Seat 7: plutoman20 showed [6c 6s 6h 8s 2h 2c 9c] and won ($7.54) with HI: a full house, Sixes full of Deuces
Seat 8: AkenAton1352 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)

Hand 7
None of my opponents' play makes much sense to me here. Even when I make aces up through the back door I don't really expect to me good for half, let alone the whole lot.

PokerStars Hand #86883386702:  7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($0.10/$0.20 USD) - 2012/09/29 1:31:08 ET
Table 'Padua VI' 8-max
Seat 1: plutoman20 ($2.49 in chips)
Seat 2: Rat61 ($1.63 in chips)
Seat 3: annis20 ($9.11 in chips)
Seat 4: s.vinciprova ($5.89 in chips)
Seat 6: Hennin ($3.67 in chips)
Seat 7: tamerlan058 ($3.24 in chips)
Seat 8: aguaero ($7.78 in chips)
plutoman20: posts the ante $0.02
Rat61: posts the ante $0.02
annis20: posts the ante $0.02
s.vinciprova: posts the ante $0.02
Esnacht: is sitting out
Esnacht leaves the table
Hennin: posts the ante $0.02
tamerlan058: posts the ante $0.02
aguaero: posts the ante $0.02
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to plutoman20 [4h Ac 7d]
Dealt to Rat61 [Qd]
Dealt to annis20 [2c]
Dealt to s.vinciprova [8s]
Dealt to Hennin [Qs]
Dealt to tamerlan058 [Ad]
Dealt to aguaero [Jc]
annis20: brings in for $0.05
s.vinciprova: raises $0.05 to $0.10
Hennin: calls $0.10
tamerlan058: folds
aguaero: folds
Guuadaña joins the table at seat #5
plutoman20: calls $0.10
Rat61: raises $0.10 to $0.20
annis20: calls $0.15
s.vinciprova: raises $0.10 to $0.30
Hennin: calls $0.20
plutoman20: calls $0.20
Rat61: raises $0.10 to $0.40
Betting is capped
annis20: folds
s.vinciprova: calls $0.10
Hennin: calls $0.10
plutoman20: calls $0.10
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to plutoman20 [4h Ac 7d] [3h]
Dealt to Rat61 [Qd] [2d]
Dealt to s.vinciprova [8s] [2h]
Dealt to Hennin [Qs] [7h]
Hennin: checks
plutoman20: checks
Rat61: bets $0.10
s.vinciprova: raises $0.10 to $0.20
Hennin: calls $0.20
plutoman20: raises $0.10 to $0.30
Rat61: calls $0.20
s.vinciprova: raises $0.10 to $0.40
Betting is capped
Hennin: calls $0.20
plutoman20: calls $0.10
Rat61: calls $0.10
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to plutoman20 [4h Ac 7d 3h] [Ts]
Dealt to Rat61 [Qd 2d] [5c]
Dealt to s.vinciprova [8s 2h] [9d]
Dealt to Hennin [Qs 7h] [5h]
Hennin: bets $0.20
plutoman20: calls $0.20
Rat61: calls $0.20
s.vinciprova: raises $0.20 to $0.40
Hennin: raises $0.20 to $0.60
plutoman20: calls $0.40
Rat61: calls $0.40
s.vinciprova: raises $0.20 to $0.80
Betting is capped
Hennin: calls $0.20
plutoman20: calls $0.20
Rat61: calls $0.20
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to plutoman20 [4h Ac 7d 3h Ts] [3s]
Dealt to Rat61 [Qd 2d 5c] [9h]
Dealt to s.vinciprova [8s 2h 9d] [Kh]
Dealt to Hennin [Qs 7h 5h] [3d]
plutoman20: checks
Rat61: checks
s.vinciprova: bets $0.20
Hennin: raises $0.20 to $0.40
plutoman20: calls $0.40
Rat61: calls $0.01 and is all-in
s.vinciprova: raises $0.20 to $0.60
Hennin: raises $0.20 to $0.80
Betting is capped
plutoman20: calls $0.40
s.vinciprova: calls $0.20
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to plutoman20 [4h Ac 7d 3h Ts 3s] [As]
plutoman20: checks
s.vinciprova: checks
Hennin: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
plutoman20: shows [4h Ac 7d 3h Ts 3s As] (HI: two pair, Aces and Threes)
s.vinciprova: mucks hand
Hennin: mucks hand
plutoman20 collected $2.37 from side pot
Rat61: mucks hand
plutoman20 collected $6.68 from main pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.15 Main pot $6.68. Side pot $2.37. | Rake $0.10
Seat 1: plutoman20 showed [4h Ac 7d 3h Ts 3s As] and won ($9.05) with HI: two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 2: Rat61 mucked [Kd Kc Qd 2d 5c 9h Jh]
Seat 3: annis20 folded on the 3rd Street
Seat 4: s.vinciprova mucked [4c 6s 8s 2h 9d Kh Td]
Seat 6: Hennin mucked [6h Qc Qs 7h 5h 3d 7c]
Seat 7: tamerlan058 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 8: aguaero folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)

Hand 8
This is a relatively common spot. Here I make a good (but far from unbeatable) high hand against what looks like an obvious low, and I want everyone else out. I was pretty sure I was winning for high with all those dead sevens getting in the way of Siltom's straight draw (in fact all the sevens were dead, although I'd forgotten about the one that was folded on third).

PokerStars Hand #86883548019:  7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($0.10/$0.20 USD) - 2012/09/29 1:41:16 ET
Table 'Padua VI' 8-max
Seat 1: plutoman20 ($7.16 in chips)
Seat 2: siltom ($5.87 in chips)
Seat 3: annis20 ($8.58 in chips)
Seat 4: s.vinciprova ($7.10 in chips)
Seat 5: TowyCruz ($3.90 in chips)
Seat 7: tamerlan058 ($3.09 in chips)
Seat 8: aguaero ($7.59 in chips)
plutoman20: posts the ante $0.02
siltom: posts the ante $0.02
annis20: posts the ante $0.02
s.vinciprova: posts the ante $0.02
TowyCruz: posts the ante $0.02
tamerlan058: posts the ante $0.02
aguaero: posts the ante $0.02
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to plutoman20 [6d Ac 7d]
Dealt to siltom [8h]
Dealt to annis20 [4s]
Dealt to s.vinciprova [Qd]
Dealt to TowyCruz [9d]
Dealt to tamerlan058 [2h]
Dealt to aguaero [Ah]
tamerlan058: bets $0.10
aguaero: folds
aguaero leaves the table
plutoman20: raises $0.10 to $0.20
siltom: calls $0.20
annis20: calls $0.20
s.vinciprova: calls $0.20
TowyCruz: folds
tamerlan058: calls $0.10
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to plutoman20 [6d Ac 7d] [As]
Dealt to siltom [8h] [6h]
Dealt to annis20 [4s] [3c]
Dealt to s.vinciprova [Qd] [7s]
Dealt to tamerlan058 [2h] [5d]
plutoman20: bets $0.10
siltom: calls $0.10
annis20: calls $0.10
s.vinciprova: folds
tamerlan058: calls $0.10
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to plutoman20 [6d Ac 7d As] [Ks]
Dealt to siltom [8h 6h] [9c]
Dealt to annis20 [4s 3c] [Kc]
Dealt to tamerlan058 [2h 5d] [Td]
plutoman20: bets $0.20
siltom: calls $0.20
annis20: calls $0.20
tamerlan058: calls $0.20
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to plutoman20 [6d Ac 7d As Ks] [7c]
Dealt to siltom [8h 6h 9c] [Ts]
Dealt to annis20 [4s 3c Kc] [Qh]
Dealt to tamerlan058 [2h 5d Td] [7h]
plutoman20: bets $0.20
s.vinciprova leaves the table
siltom: calls $0.20
annis20: calls $0.20
tamerlan058: raises $0.20 to $0.40
plutoman20: raises $0.20 to $0.60
siltom: folds
annis20: calls $0.40
tamerlan058: raises $0.20 to $0.80
Betting is capped
plutoman20: calls $0.20
annis20: calls $0.20
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to plutoman20 [6d Ac 7d As Ks 7c] [Th]
plutoman20: checks
annis20: checks
tamerlan058: bets $0.20
plutoman20: calls $0.20
annis20: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tamerlan058: shows [Ad 6s 2h 5d Td 7h 5h] (HI: a pair of Fives; LO: 7,6,5,2,A)
plutoman20: shows [6d Ac 7d As Ks 7c Th] (HI: two pair, Aces and Sevens)
plutoman20 collected $2.62 from pot
tamerlan058 collected $2.62 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.34 | Rake $0.10
Seat 1: plutoman20 showed [6d Ac 7d As Ks 7c Th] and won ($2.62) with HI: two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 2: siltom folded on the 6th Street
Seat 3: annis20 folded on the River
Seat 4: s.vinciprova folded on the 4th Street
Seat 5: TowyCruz folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: tamerlan058 showed [Ad 6s 2h 5d Td 7h 5h] and won ($2.62) with HI: a pair of Fives; LO: 7,6,5,2,A
Seat 8: aguaero folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)

Hand 9
Now for some bonus badugi hands. Chocozen obviously isn't very good; I never expected him to have a six after drawing three. I'm surprised he didn't reraise the river. I guess this was a good break for me.

PokerStars Hand #86884831187:  Badugi Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2012/09/29 3:02:09 ET
Table 'Reni III' 8-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: chocozen ($29.67 in chips)
Seat 3: SideshowRod ($100.57 in chips)
Seat 5: plutoman20 ($27.04 in chips)
Seat 6: PsihoLady ($9.25 in chips)
Seat 7: Hammaburg81 ($11.36 in chips)
Seat 8: The*ConMeN ($13.29 in chips)
The*ConMeN: posts small blind $0.25
66$FAUST$66: is sitting out
chocozen: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to plutoman20 [Ts 2c 5h 3d]
66$FAUST$66 leaves the table
SideshowRod: folds
plutoman20: raises $0.50 to $1
PsihoLady: folds
Hammaburg81: raises $0.50 to $1.50
Firegale joins the table at seat #1
The*ConMeN: calls $1.25
SideshowRod leaves the table
chocozen: calls $1
plutoman20: raises $0.50 to $2
Betting is capped
Hammaburg81: calls $0.50
The*ConMeN: calls $0.50
chocozen: calls $0.50
*** FIRST DRAW ***
The*ConMeN: discards 2 cards
chocozen: discards 3 cards
plutoman20: stands pat on [Ts 2c 5h 3d]
Hammaburg81: stands pat
ROK135 joins the table at seat #3
The*ConMeN: checks
chocozen: bets $0.50
plutoman20: raises $0.50 to $1
Hammaburg81: raises $0.50 to $1.50
The*ConMeN: calls $1.50
chocozen: raises $0.50 to $2
Betting is capped
plutoman20: calls $1
Hammaburg81: calls $0.50
The*ConMeN: calls $0.50
*** SECOND DRAW ***
The*ConMeN: discards 1 card
chocozen: stands pat
plutoman20: discards 1 card [Ts]
Dealt to plutoman20 [2c 5h 3d] [4s]
Hammaburg81: stands pat
The*ConMeN: checks
chocozen: bets $1
plutoman20: calls $1
Hammaburg81: calls $1
The*ConMeN: calls $1
*** THIRD DRAW ***
The*ConMeN: stands pat
chocozen: stands pat
plutoman20: stands pat on [2c 5h 3d 4s]
Hammaburg81: discards 2 cards
The*ConMeN: checks
chocozen: bets $1
plutoman20: raises $1 to $2
Hammaburg81: folds
The*ConMeN: calls $2
chocozen: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
plutoman20: shows [4s 2c 5h 3d] (Badugi: 5,4,3,2)
The*ConMeN: mucks hand
chocozen: mucks hand
plutoman20 collected $25.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $26 | Rake $0.40
Seat 2: chocozen (big blind) mucked [5c 3s 4d 6h]
Seat 3: SideshowRod folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 5: plutoman20 showed [4s 2c 5h 3d] and won ($25.60) with a Badugi: 5,4,3,2
Seat 6: PsihoLady folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Hammaburg81 (button) folded after the 3rd Draw
Seat 8: The*ConMeN (small blind) mucked [3h 2s 8s 9h]

Hand 10
Normally I'd have at least considered folding here, but people do anything when they're short, just so they can get all in.

PokerStars Hand #86885549682:  Badugi Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2012/09/29 3:42:11 ET
Table 'Reni III' 8-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: silna_rakia ($39.91 in chips)
Seat 2: dennder ($5.24 in chips)
Seat 3: ROK135 ($48.85 in chips)
Seat 4: Rumaks ($20.29 in chips)
Seat 5: plutoman20 ($53.47 in chips)
Seat 6: Jorgos_Joanu ($13.56 in chips)
Seat 7: Cheereemoni ($11.35 in chips)
Seat 8: PsihoLady ($2.99 in chips)
PsihoLady: posts small blind $0.25
silna_rakia: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to plutoman20 [3c Jd As 8h]
dennder: raises $0.50 to $1
ROK135: folds
Rumaks: folds
plutoman20: raises $0.50 to $1.50
Jorgos_Joanu: calls $1.50
Cheereemoni: folds
PsihoLady: folds
silna_rakia: folds
dennder: raises $0.50 to $2
Betting is capped
plutoman20: calls $0.50
Jorgos_Joanu: calls $0.50
*** FIRST DRAW ***
dennder: discards 1 card
plutoman20: stands pat on [3c Jd As 8h]
Jorgos_Joanu: discards 1 card
dennder: checks
plutoman20: bets $0.50
Jorgos_Joanu: calls $0.50
dennder: calls $0.50
*** SECOND DRAW ***
dennder: discards 1 card
plutoman20: stands pat on [3c Jd As 8h]
Jorgos_Joanu: discards 1 card
dennder: checks
plutoman20: bets $1
Jorgos_Joanu: calls $1
dennder: raises $1 to $2
plutoman20: calls $1
Jorgos_Joanu: calls $1
*** THIRD DRAW ***
dennder: stands pat
plutoman20: stands pat on [3c Jd As 8h]
Jorgos_Joanu: discards 1 card
dennder: bets $0.74 and is all-in
plutoman20: calls $0.74
Jorgos_Joanu: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dennder: shows [Kd 5s Ac 6h] (Badugi: K,6,5,A)
plutoman20: shows [3c Jd As 8h] (Badugi: J,8,3,A)
plutoman20 collected $15.33 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15.73 | Rake $0.40
Seat 1: silna_rakia (big blind) folded before the Draw
Seat 2: dennder showed [Kd 5s Ac 6h] and lost with a Badugi: K,6,5,A
Seat 3: ROK135 folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Rumaks folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 5: plutoman20 showed [3c Jd As 8h] and won ($15.33) with a Badugi: J,8,3,A
Seat 6: Jorgos_Joanu folded after the 3rd Draw
Seat 7: Cheereemoni (button) folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 8: PsihoLady (small blind) folded before the Draw
 

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